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	<title>Comments on: Heyes Captcha</title>
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		<title>By: Gareth Heyes</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/05/26/heyes-captcha/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Heyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 08:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep good idea, I was experimenting with producing a js based captcha that would also slow down manual submissions, which was the logic behind this method.

I could add some timer checks but of course they could be faked with enough variance from an average time. It is a difficult problem to solve because the attacker can see and manipulate anything you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep good idea, I was experimenting with producing a js based captcha that would also slow down manual submissions, which was the logic behind this method.</p>
<p>I could add some timer checks but of course they could be faked with enough variance from an average time. It is a difficult problem to solve because the attacker can see and manipulate anything you can.</p>
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		<title>By: DrSlump</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/05/26/heyes-captcha/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>DrSlump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 10:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO if you require JS then implement a unobtrusive solution. Perhaps a timer in the textarea which times the seconds it took to write N chars, if that check fails (either an automated program or cut-and-paste) then route the visitor to the &#039;captcha&#039;.

I would certainly be interested in some clever JS checks like computing the time-per-char ratio as above or the path described by the mouse, which in most cases could separate legit visitors from spammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO if you require JS then implement a unobtrusive solution. Perhaps a timer in the textarea which times the seconds it took to write N chars, if that check fails (either an automated program or cut-and-paste) then route the visitor to the &#8216;captcha&#8217;.</p>
<p>I would certainly be interested in some clever JS checks like computing the time-per-char ratio as above or the path described by the mouse, which in most cases could separate legit visitors from spammers.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Heyes</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/05/26/heyes-captcha/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Heyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 00:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason there is a time delay at the moment is because it would prevent manual bulk submissions (for example if someone was paid to submit the captcha on a site) this could be disabled or reduced to reduce the annoyance.

No way to get round the javascript issue I&#039;m afraid but Javascript is required to use the majority of web sites anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason there is a time delay at the moment is because it would prevent manual bulk submissions (for example if someone was paid to submit the captcha on a site) this could be disabled or reduced to reduce the annoyance.</p>
<p>No way to get round the javascript issue I&#8217;m afraid but Javascript is required to use the majority of web sites anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Mgccl</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/05/26/heyes-captcha/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Mgccl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 23:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think a captcha like this would be good for many people.
For example:
1. It is taking too long, waiting 5 seconds to post a nice comment?
2. it require JS, some people don&#039;t have them
3. the first time I use it, I go pass the time &gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think a captcha like this would be good for many people.<br />
For example:<br />
1. It is taking too long, waiting 5 seconds to post a nice comment?<br />
2. it require JS, some people don&#8217;t have them<br />
3. the first time I use it, I go pass the time &gt;.</p>
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