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	<title>Comments on: Random Javascript and PHP generation</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gareth Heyes</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-612</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Heyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem enjoy :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem enjoy <img src='http://www.thespanner.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-611</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this code. Very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this code. Very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-608</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this plugin! 8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this plugin! <img src='http://www.thespanner.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: deviantz</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>deviantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ei thanks! i will try this code.. actually i need this kind of code for my new project.

thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ei thanks! i will try this code.. actually i need this kind of code for my new project.</p>
<p>thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Allan MOjica</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald Allan MOjica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks great !!! its a big help!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks great !!! its a big help!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Thorin</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:) There's the gauntlet :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.thespanner.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> There&#8217;s the gauntlet <img src='http://www.thespanner.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Heyes</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Heyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep I look forward to developing something to defeating them if they get passed my spam protection :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep I look forward to developing something to defeating them if they get passed my spam protection <img src='http://www.thespanner.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: nEUrOO</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>nEUrOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We start seeing more and more JavaScript (based) crawlers. They won't have any problem with these kind of protections.

But well, sure it's working well so far. I used to work on this kind of protection for a phpBB forum I have, and well, no more spam :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We start seeing more and more JavaScript (based) crawlers. They won&#8217;t have any problem with these kind of protections.</p>
<p>But well, sure it&#8217;s working well so far. I used to work on this kind of protection for a phpBB forum I have, and well, no more spam <img src='http://www.thespanner.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Heyes</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Heyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep it's surprising how much of this comment spam isn't parsing Javascript, they certainly have the ability to do it. 

The problem with the technique you mentioned is that it is quite easy for a spammer to create the key (server side) without having to parse Javascript. Therefore your technique relies on the spammer not knowing how you are protecting the form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep it&#8217;s surprising how much of this comment spam isn&#8217;t parsing Javascript, they certainly have the ability to do it. </p>
<p>The problem with the technique you mentioned is that it is quite easy for a spammer to create the key (server side) without having to parse Javascript. Therefore your technique relies on the spammer not knowing how you are protecting the form.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/08/15/random-javascript-and-php-generation/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've used something similar a while back. I used a MD5 JavaScript to create a hash of the users' name before submitting the form.

I then created the same hash in php and compared them to each other...

This reduced the spam posted using the contact form of that particular site to zero.

-H-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used something similar a while back. I used a MD5 JavaScript to create a hash of the users&#8217; name before submitting the form.</p>
<p>I then created the same hash in php and compared them to each other&#8230;</p>
<p>This reduced the spam posted using the contact form of that particular site to zero.</p>
<p>-H-</p>
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