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	<title>Comments on: iframes are evil</title>
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		<title>By: Gareth Heyes</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/09/09/iframes-are-evil/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Heyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm so sorry about the code in comments, I've finally taken the time to update my security plugin and encoded the correct characters. You should be able to post code on the blog now without it being stripped out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so sorry about the code in comments, I&#8217;ve finally taken the time to update my security plugin and encoded the correct characters. You should be able to post code on the blog now without it being stripped out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Heyes</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/09/09/iframes-are-evil/#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Heyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Evert

Yeah I wish that would happen sooner rather than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Evert</p>
<p>Yeah I wish that would happen sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Heyes</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/09/09/iframes-are-evil/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Heyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I know I'm sorry. I didn't write the code on this blog, I'm gonna sort it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I know I&#8217;m sorry. I didn&#8217;t write the code on this blog, I&#8217;m gonna sort it out.</p>
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		<title>By: digi7al64</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/09/09/iframes-are-evil/#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator>digi7al64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meh - sorry but no matter what i do it just doesn't render right.

Honestly no offence to yourself Gareth but this sucks, we can post comments that use greater or less then signs. i mean how hard is it to encode em rather then delete them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meh - sorry but no matter what i do it just doesn&#8217;t render right.</p>
<p>Honestly no offence to yourself Gareth but this sucks, we can post comments that use greater or less then signs. i mean how hard is it to encode em rather then delete them?</p>
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		<title>By: digi7al64</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/09/09/iframes-are-evil/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>digi7al64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops. forgot to wrap the code 



  
     false
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     false
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops. forgot to wrap the code </p>
<p>     false<br />
     true</p>
<p>     false<br />
     true</p>
<p>     false<br />
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		<title>By: digi7al64</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/09/09/iframes-are-evil/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>digi7al64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem with your solution is that if a page is hacked via persistant xss then "" could be overwritten or excluded. What we need is a new document that resides on servers that dictate was rules the browser should follow. similar to 
crossdomain.xml but with more clout




   true
   false


   true
   false


   true
   false


 
This way by setting flags for true or false based on the domain you eleminate a lot of the remote inclusions that cause issues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem with your solution is that if a page is hacked via persistant xss then &#8220;&#8221; could be overwritten or excluded. What we need is a new document that resides on servers that dictate was rules the browser should follow. similar to<br />
crossdomain.xml but with more clout</p>
<p>   true<br />
   false</p>
<p>   true<br />
   false</p>
<p>   true<br />
   false</p>
<p>This way by setting flags for true or false based on the domain you eleminate a lot of the remote inclusions that cause issues</p>
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		<title>By: Evert</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/09/09/iframes-are-evil/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>Evert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just waiting for the day when we can include a security profile per site, allowing use to disable javascript altogether, iframes, javascript accessing cookies, etc, etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just waiting for the day when we can include a security profile per site, allowing use to disable javascript altogether, iframes, javascript accessing cookies, etc, etc..</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Heyes</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/09/09/iframes-are-evil/#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Heyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that would be a fantastic feature in noscript, also removing the visited attribute in CSS, window.open etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that would be a fantastic feature in noscript, also removing the visited attribute in CSS, window.open etc</p>
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		<title>By: Bipin 3~ Upadhyay</title>
		<link>http://www.thespanner.co.uk/2007/09/09/iframes-are-evil/#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator>Bipin 3~ Upadhyay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 12:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a strange coincidence (though not such a big one for the world to celebrate :P).
I had some similar feelings after looking at "several" attacks possible using iframes (including the CSS ones). The most prominent being the recent "Bank Of India" hack, where the attackers used iframes to download malware on the users system (please correct me if I am mistaken).
I was in fact thinking of initiating a discussion thread on Slackers and..... go the extent of  requesting Maone to include an option to disable iframes in NoScript. :)
IMHO, that's the only way I see currently to save oneself in these CSS and drive-by download attack scenarios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a strange coincidence (though not such a big one for the world to celebrate :P).<br />
I had some similar feelings after looking at &#8220;several&#8221; attacks possible using iframes (including the CSS ones). The most prominent being the recent &#8220;Bank Of India&#8221; hack, where the attackers used iframes to download malware on the users system (please correct me if I am mistaken).<br />
I was in fact thinking of initiating a discussion thread on Slackers and&#8230;.. go the extent of  requesting Maone to include an option to disable iframes in NoScript. <img src='http://www.thespanner.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
IMHO, that&#8217;s the only way I see currently to save oneself in these CSS and drive-by download attack scenarios.</p>
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